Likewise, "[do something] at end of combat" (e.g., in myriad [C.R. Obeka, Brute Chronologist + Final Fortune + Elite Arcanist/Isochron Scepter = Infinite turns lol. ]), Made possible by our patrons, phpBB, Scryfall, and Others. The entire reason Obeka has 'may' in the card text is to prevent this. So they can still say "no I want my turn to continue.". This includes spells and abilities that can't be countered. Obeka, Brute Chronologist. We ask the question "what can we do . What do you think about adding anger, lightning greaves and hall of the bandit lord for haste? Most combos actually win a game in the way they're designed; infinite mana, infinite damage, infinite turns, infinite blink. $0.24. For the cards she plays nicely with, you generally need to allow the trigger to be put on the stack first in order to permanently delete it. 2) If there are any attacking and blocking creatures, they're removed from combat. (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. I'm curious to see a judge rule on this one. Before you even reach the "I am demonstrating a loop" statement you're attempting to repeat the board state already, or your loop hasn't resolved a single "NO" response yet. But remember, the latest wording of a card is always given in its Oracle text (C.R. .s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);padding-top:5px}.s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f._19JhaP1slDQqu2XgT3vVS0{color:#ea0027} Let's say I'm on my second turn off a Final Fortune. If you swing at who I want, I'll let you keep it for a while. This includes spells and abilities . 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Obeka, Brute Chronologist. If Obeka's ability is used to end the turn on the turn when nabber's effect ends does obeka's controller keep control of the artifact, or does it go back to the original controller? The discussion above applies to these abilities as they do to "at the beginning of the next end step" abilities, except "end step" is replaced with "end of combat step". https://blogs.magicjudges.org/rules/mtr4-4/, https://mobile.twitter.com/WotC_Matt/status/1365372480412471296. Even though the outcome *COULD* be different, it's not guaranteed to be, so it's just stalling. See cards from the most recent sets and discover what players just like you are saying about them. The player whose turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size. 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I think we need more artifact mana. slythr: Answers to your question have been up for a while. Cards that grant players an extra turn are always good to keep an eye on. Ending the turn this way means the following things happen in order: 1) All spells and abilities on the stack are exiled. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} Rulings. I may have to put it together and try it out. Also worth noting is that ending the turn before the end step causes the At the beginning of the end step effects to trigger at the next end step that occurs since they were not triggered given the skipping of the end step. 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This includes spells and abilities that can't be countered. NM; EX; VG; G; 2 available @ $0.79 . Flip, Obeka, Brute Chronologist.i think one of these will benefit the deck as the commander however i do not which one to choose. obeka, brute chronologist interaction Asked by The_Overlord_666 1 year ago. After looking into the rules surrounding loops and using the best of my judgely knowledge, it does appear to work, but I can't find any specific mentions of the situation on oracle rulings, or threads of the interaction in general, which seemed odd to me, considering the strangeness of this interaction. I figured since the tournament rules stated that the word action could essentially be substituted for choice when resolving loops it would also apply here. In this deck tech I've tried a taste of all three.Pat. This will allow you to delay the trigger by a turn. Edit: adding comprehensive rules reference. Doesn't work at all. Rince and repeat for each opponent, effectively only giving them untap and upkeep steps until an answer is found, which might be hard without a draw step. Go ahead and say nuh-uh to whatever shit is flying in your face. Good job, WotC. I'm not a judge but I'm like 99% sure this doesn't work. Kougaiji38, you seem to have some misconceptions. Card Kingdom $624 - 564. You are not the active player. Guest-only advertisements. However, I see the argument against you choosing a certain card in the deck to be on top after you imply an infinite number of shuffles, if that was what was really going on. Hey all, my friend recently built an Obeka, Brute Chronologist deck and weve been struggling to understand the ruling. The Commander's Quarters is your Magic the Gathering source that helps you Command Your Budget! If there's a reason this rule doesn't apply here, another rule that applies, or a rule which prevents me from getting that far then I'm not aware. 11/10/2020: Ending the turn this way means the following things happen in order: 1) All spells and abilities on the stack are exiled. Contact | Thanks genius for the link. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. 719.1d; see also C.R. There is also Kardur, Doomscourge that will force everyone's hand. This sequence may be a non-repetitive series of choices, a loop that repeats a specified number of times, multiple loops, or nested loops, and may even cross multiple turns. Discord Server | Say you could build a deck around just Goatnapper-ing someone else's commander and now swinging back at them? A few to consider removing (I may be missing why you have them in, so user discretion is advised or something): Archive Trap, Outpost Siege, Palace Siege, Ponder, Preordain, Haunting Echoes, Cruel Ultimatum (this seems insanely hard to cast, and hits only 1 player, unless you can copy it I'd run Captive Audience if I want to hose one player hard), Cranial Extraction, Cormela, Glamour Thief, Kess, Dissident Mage, Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger, Lobber Crew, Loyal Subordinate, Nekusar, the Mindrazer, Obeka, Brute Chronologist, Phenax, God of Deception, Runo Stromkirk If you want to completely negate an end step trigger you can wait until it is put on the stack, and then end the turn in response. Obeka, Brute Chronologist. EDH decks and themes I'm currently playing! This text, though, is unconventional for an ordinary triggered ability, so read it as "At end of combat, exile this creature". That way the trigger has gone off and will not trigger again at a later end step. Isochron Scepter + Final Fortune + Obeka, Brute Chronologist (1582 decks) $13.99 $10.83 0.16 TIX Isochron Scepter $14.99 $15.68 1.01 TIX Final Fortune Commander protection is major in this deck, as are ways to untap your commander (because Blue says sleepy sleepy). by darrenhabib 1 year ago. TappedOut.js Blog Widget. Steal shit, don't give it back. It cant include conditional actions, where the outcome of a game event determines the next action a player takes. Steal shit, don't give it back. It's amazing. The same applies to abilities that begin with "At end of combat, " (e.g., [[Kytheon, Hero of Akros]]), and the same applies to delayed triggered abilities that specify a duration, as in the examples "Until end of turn, whenever" and "Whenever this turn, " (C.R. The player whose turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size. After commander legends I made an Obeka EDH list. I untap and retap Obeka with the same question. 513.1a); this change generally didn't change the functionality of any cards (before Magic 2010, "at end of turn" meant the beginning of the relevant "end of turn step", now called end step [C.R. Because as niche as it sounds, I definitely want to run thawing glaciers in an obeka deck, and an extra mana could be the difference between entering an infinite turn loop with isochron. Help | If you use Obeka with Act, you still give the creature back. (Note the lack of the word "next".) Active player is distinct from priority. - from the comprehensive rules. Card Kingdom price: $0.00. EDIT (Sep. 18): Some rules were renumbered in the meantime. In turn order (noting that it's currently opponent's turn), each player involved in the loop now must choose a finite number of times they wish to continue with the loop. It is strictly against the rules. All combos are rules exploits in one way or another, this one is just more original. 2020-11-10. 603.7b, 614.10a). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Obeka, Brute Chronologist 's entire textbox simply says "Consequences are stupid." Basically, it exiles anything on the stack, you can end your turn and ignore whatever it is, usually just saying no to poopy effects. On the other hand, neither player has any incentive to ever change their action or decision. Commander Legends: Obeka, Brute Chronologist. From what I understand, end step effects go on the stack and can be canceled by ending the turn with Obeka, but until end of turn effects do not go on the stack and happen with the cleanup step, therefore they cannot be interacted with. If you consistently have a fairly big creature, or one with Deathtouch and Lifelink, Chandra's Ignition is one sided by definition, one of many cards that shines brightly with Basilisk Collar (which is also very good with Jaya Ballard, Task Mage or even good old Banshee, Jaya's 6 damage wipe really is amazing if you've got Collar on her, though it'll kill her too). Obeka, Brute Chronologist, illustrated by Jesper Ejsing. This will allow you to delay the trigger by a turn. Greven, Predator Captain the One Punch Man, Community Software Feedback and Bug Reports, Tresserhorn (zombies, check out my primer! by Cobara86, Time after Time Here is how it would work. Obeka has been the hardest nut for me to crack deck wise. I would see how it could be considered a dick move outside a combo meta, but I'm not sure I understand the argument for this being a dick move within that meta. The beginning state has Obeka untapped. Card Number: 289. Not if 720.3[edit 722.3] (added reference in OP) takes effect. I'm sure no one else is too surprised though . Obeka, Brute Chronologist rulings: 2020-11-10: Ending the turn this way means the following things happen in order: 1) All spells and abilities on the stack are exiled. by Muffins1001 1 year ago, Post Legalities. 11/10/2020: Ending the turn this way means the following things happen in order: 1) All spells and abilities on the stack are exiled. It has Tap: The player whose turn it is may end the turn. Press J to jump to the feed. Okay, hear me out, but what if you could steal someone's big, bad creature, forever, for just three mana*? Obeka Ruling Hey all, my friend recently built an Obeka, Brute Chronologist deck and we've been struggling to understand the ruling. ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} All in all, lots of Magic on my mind. This site 2023 TappedOut.net, LLC by LordsofChaos115, Sedris, Grave Defiler. I have demonstrated a loop. 513.1a].) 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