Long hours, stress and the commute just made it unsustainable. I would 100% not be able to do that. Also lived in LB, commuted to Newport/CDM. In my job there I did a lot of driving to sites, which stressed me out but eventually I came to love, because I learned about different parts of the area, and our clients various secret tips and so on. So, the speed of travel you describe seems pretty normal for LA, but thats exactly why people dont live 30 miles from their workplace if they can help it! I live on the East Coast and my commute is about 15 miles and takes me 20 minutes. I found this very helpful while job searching. . The only thing that would slow me down was if the drawbridge was up (Seriously, a drawbridge on a major freeway). The thought of commuting for 4+ hours a day is unfathomable to me a certainly unsustainable! My car was still like new after 2 years of a 25 mile each way commute in the south. My old boss could not figure out why I hate my 2 hours commute vs his 2 hour commute; mine was all stop and go traffic, his was open highway. I guess my number 2 worst commute is anywhere east of DTLA to anywhere west of Los Feliz. :) It doesnt matter if its Anaheim to LB, Pasadena to Westwood, etc. I lived in downtown LA for 2 years and commuted to Culver City, about 12 miles away. Last year, I took a position where I had to commute from my parents house in Westchester to eastern LI (driving 63 miles each way). You listen to KCRW or podcasts and eventually adjust. But also, screw normal. Theres a reason why people in Southern California give distances in time and not in miles. A non-resident worker (NRW) who works as a cleaner in Macau but lives in Zhuhai tested positive for COVID-19 in Zhuhai on Monday, Macau's Novel Coronavirus Response and Coordina The idea of driving into the city center or to the other side of the metro area makes me shudder. Still, commute times in all peer metros have worsened and the Bay Area now falls in the middle of the pack. I think it is very hard to understand LA geography without spending some time driving there (and you can spend decades there without seeing or interacting with 2/3 of it, depending on the corridors you frequent). There are ever-growing RV encampments all over with people just trying to make ends meet. One parent leaves for work earlier so he or she can leave work early enough to pick up the kid. Could OP drive or take a train part way and then cycle? In metropolis areas youre looking at more competition for limited job openings. I miss it. Um, OP posted earlier about a frightening and traumatic experience that gave her PTSD, which is the main reason she does not feel safe on public transit. Is it normal? But I pay for that convenience. Its a choice. It works for me, for now. Many people commute 2hrs+ every day. But it is getting worse. 2 hours isnt normal, but its not unusual. Heh. Its common for people to have to pull over and knock to offer reimbursement for hitting a chicken/guinea hen/something else. My daily drive is about 26 miles, and takes just about 1.25 hours during the school year, including one stop to pick up my carpool buddy. I dont have any advice but you have my deepest sympathy. You have to move where the job is or its not feasible. I have been on the Metro many times, including the blue line going through Compton at 1am, and never felt unsafe. Lolol. Youre commuting about 20-24 hours a week! Oh, missed the only twice a week bit. Topping the list of metro areas with high rates of mega commuting are San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA (2.06%), New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA (1.90%), Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV (1.89%), Trenton-Ewing NJ Metropolitan Statistical Area (1.40%), and Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA (1.25%). LB to Weho sounds terrible. Yeah, I already made up my mind Im leaving. At least with my commute it is just me in the car (with my audiobooks or silence, depending on my mood). Sigh! 2 hours isnot abnormal for this area. Im in an area with long commutes (top 10 US), but even for here that was double many people (though not as bad as others just not in my workplace). Mine is 40 45 minutes each way. Having more/less freeway time, more/less surface street time, time of day youre coming and going, whether youre traveling with or against the bulk of traffic in the areas youre in makes a HUGE difference. And last one and then Ill stop, I swear! Their two major functions are to suck up money and kill mobility. You do have control over your car! I know someone who used to bike from Venice to Union Station, then take light rail up to South Pasadena. Yeah, I think this is the disconnect for me in theory, you could pack in the cars all driving 1 foot apart at 60 mph just fine and everyone would get there in the same time as if they were alone on the road, but humans will never drive like that. Youll just have to figure out what works for you, and is sustainable long-term. I work in a pretty niche part of healthcare, and Im enduring it for the opportunity that provides. But a 2 hour commute in LA is not at all unusual. By the time he left LA, he had only a 15-minute drive to work because hed arranged his life that way (so that his job and his apartment were close to each other). OP said flex time is very likely not an option, unfortunately. to my office in Belmont, Mass. We have people commuting to our company near LAX from far and wide, including Thousand Oaks, Pasadena, Long Beach and even Riverside County. I remember that nonsense too- Before I relocated from West San Jose to Solano County 10 years ago (before this latest boom)- i had to leave my house for my 8 mile commute between 6:04-6:08am- if i missed that window (and yes, it really was that specific) my commute went from 30 minutes on the 880 towards Tremble in Santa Clara to 60-75 minutes. I live in a tiny town so my commute is 5 minutes driving (allow 10 minutes door-to-door). The bus system here is a joke and there are no trains to take, so driving is the only real option for us. Its a trade-off. We moved, and now Im just a little too far to walk to the Metra stop by my new house. You dont have to believe it, I guess, but its true. Then Id get rid of my car and take the bus everywhere. See photos, review amenities, and request a tour of the property today. Im on the east coast and one of my previous jobs was a minimum 45 min. Im sorry! Traffic in Southern California is just a fact of life. If there is a problem it gets worse (on all my possible routes). But I WILL say that is why most people choose to only look for jobs in their neighborhood, or move for work even within the city. I work from home and share a car with my wife, whose job is on the other side of townall of 10 minutes away if we go exactly at the speed limit! Plus, its Florida and OP is in southern California, so I doubt that we could survive the heat (not to mention the frequent summer rainstorms here in the summer). I was astonished at the traffic inbound. OP, if you cant quit (or even if you can) I strongly advise you take steps to make your commute as nice and relaxing as possible! One thing that really helped me (which might not be possible in your situation) was that I was able to work out one work from home day a week. I wouldt be home until 8:30-9. 2 hours! About half of the route is alongside parks so there are no street corners to negotiate. Here is what makes it work: (1) I dont mind it. However, I know not every long distance job has carpool buddies, so I understand that can be difficult. It is a great read (at least, if youre a data nerd!) Thats half of a standard work day! *scratching LA off the list of cities I could move to*. I am so thankful that I work from home. 710 is usually fine. Commutes in more congested cities are like that, unfortunately. etc. Im not sure what you think Im suggesting, but just to be extra clear: I understand Southern California traffic is bananas. Getting off and going home had no lucky 5 minute window. (Think of Clueless, when Chers dad tells her Everywhere in LA takes 20 minutes. That is just for the city center of LA, like Hollywood to the Westside, on a good day. Its especially frustrating in a stick shift because your clutch foot gets so tired. And while it was scary as hell, we were all so drunk at the time we werent nearly as terrified as we should have been. Now I work at an office 15 minutes away and could go full time from home if I wanted. More than 25 minutes in the car each way would drive me mad before the first week was out. When I lived in Houston, my commute was just under an hour, but I was only going 4 miles door to door so At one point it was ~2 hours, but then I was living a whole 15 miles away. The further west you go (i.e. Ive lived in SoCal for 48 years and never worked more than 20-25 minute drive from any place Ive ever worked (shortest commute: 2-3 minutes.) I miss some things about city life, but I dont miss city commutes, and I will have to be living somewhere amazing to go back to that kind of lifestyle. That said, commutes dont *have* to be that long even in this part of the country. That sounds completely normal. Hosted by people who live in SoCal. Thursday and Friday afternoons going northbound (away from NYC ) is the worst. For me the cost of living is a trade off I am willing to take to not spend my life commuting. Interestingly, I had the reverse situation as youin NYC I found it more expensive to live and had a longer commute. Id take a pay cut to work closer to LB over living in the valley for ANY amount of money. I did that for 6 weeks and It felt like 2 years. No need to do it all by one method. He missed the birth of our baby. Honestly, the only person I knew who ever commute that far was an intern from a college town a couple hours away (and that shocked me that hed do that each day). No thanks! At least youll be free to do something else during that time. Thats how I did it. When I had a job in the San Fernando Valley the commute was fine because the traffic went in the opposite direction. Again, most of the time for that commute was in-town, close to campus and the rest of is was 45-55+ mph on state roads. The commute was very bad for my physical and mental health, not to mention very expensive (maxing out an EZ-Pass twice). Yeah my other sister lives in Issaquah, and I hear the traffic is getting just as bad as it is where Im at now. If OP (or anyone else) doesnt feel comfortable taking it, its not really very cool to try and push her into doing it. I now work in LB (and actually still get to WFH many days) and my quality of life is 500% better. If you want to live somewhere affordable and work in the city, youre going to have to commute 1 to 2 hours away. Its normal if you live in the Valley and work in West LA. OP is far from an outlier, but it doesnt mean she HAS to keep up a brutal drive like that. I learned that I am not good with long commutes so I have always chosen to live fairly close to where I work (in the same town). Luckily, I discovered I liked the SGV after working in the area for awhile. 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